The author commented on the friendly gesture shown by Dr. Saeed El-Naggar and the positive testimony of Dr. Kamal Abul Magd during the hearings about the Ibn Khaldoun Center. Both men are on the Board of Saad Eddin’s Center. He listed the details of Al-Naggar’s emotional defense of Ibrahim. He attributed Naggar’s strong defense to his fear of being accused of the same charges, as he is leading a liberal center that supports normalization [with Israel] and the Middle East association project.