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29. This was the state of affairs between Pope Shenouda and my brother Sādat
Date of source: Wednesday, March 28, 2012
I phoned Lt. Colonel Hamdī 'Abd al-Karīm, the director of the interior ministry's information and press office, in 1983. I told him then that I wanted to pay a visit to Pope Shenouda III and spend a day with him at Wādī al-Natrūn.
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