Subtitles: * Sadat ruled him out of the vote for a new Pope and then later gave him three hundred fidans in the desert. * He was the first monk to have a university qualification and Pope Shenouda was one of his followers in the monastery. * He said to me that Sadat’s eyes were red when he got angry and he refused my request for the location of the Papal seat. * The split between him and the Pope was because he believed that church and politics should be separated but the Pope believed that he should engage in political leadership. In this article, the author recounts the history of Father Matta Al-Maskeen as well as shedding lights on his relationship with pope Shenouda III.